Problems starting 2015 CRF250L

Discussion in '2012+ CRF250L Tech Talk' started by newbiecrf250l, Nov 17, 2015.

  1. newbiecrf250l

    newbiecrf250l New Member

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    Hi all, completely new rider here. I have a 2015 CRF250L (stock except changed sprockets by the first owner).

    Was practicing in a local car park and upon trying to do a turn way too sharp because of my newbie nerves, I dropped the bike. It was okay, just the gear lever got bent and a few insignificant scratches, but no probs, what are dual sports for!

    Annnnd then it happened again, but the issue was I tried to start the bike and everything appeared in order except the actual start button - when I would hold it down it would not fire. We tried a few times then left it for a bit, my boyfriend thinking maybe it was screwed from the last drop or the spark plugs. He jumped on and tried getting the fuel to circulate (not sure if I'm explaining it well enough) and it turned on after he did that. We read up about all different locks - neutral, kickstand, issues with fuel, etc., so we are not entirely sure what the problem is.

    Left it for a while, after losing my nerve quite a bit... Rode it once more, and parked it. Went to start it up shortly after and same issue.

    Does anyone have an idea what it could be or if it's a common problem and something just locked?

    Boyfriend could get it to start after a bit of a fiddle and just rode it back and called it a day.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. cowboy

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    I did notice once when I dropped mine it wouldn't start until ignition was turned off for a few seconds then on again.
    I imagined it must have some kind of sensor cuts the motor if it's on its side so as to avoid oil starvation.
     
  3. Alex

    Alex crf250l.org dude

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    Interesting - if that sensor is replaceable, it should show up on the parts list somewhere?
     
  4. newbiecrf250l

    newbiecrf250l New Member

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    That would make sense, but actually yesterday I stalled the bike upon taking off and it wouldn't start up. It'd fire but it was as if it had no energy. Weird. It was only from stalling it too. My other half reckons it maybe needs a little bit of time after it's dropped or well, stalled - keeping in mind we topped up some engine oil not long before i stalled it.
    That doesn't explain the other times though. Anyone find their rear brake to be hard to feel or press down on? I find myself dangerously grabbing front brake because I can't feel my rear well enough compared to say, a WR250X.


    Might be something Honda specialists would need to tweak themselves
     
  5. Ironman

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    I'm not sure where your at but there was a factory recall on the ones here in the US to replace the starter solenoid switch. I thought it was only for some 13-14 models but you may need to see if your falls in the recall. Mine is a 14 and it was recalled, took only about 15 minutes for them to change it, no charge.
     
  6. newbiecrf250l

    newbiecrf250l New Member

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    Damn! I hope not. I'm in Australia but so far it hasn't been giving me any problems. I'm second owner too, but it really does seem okay so I'm not sure. How bad was the issue for you? I mean, did it not start usually?
     
  7. Ironman

    Ironman New Member

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    I didn't have any problem at all. I just had it fixed because the potential was there, they said there was a sealant that was applied improperly and could cause starting issues or possibly a fire. So I had it replaced since it was free.
     
  8. Mike310

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    How would I be notified of the recall? I have the 2014, thanks in advance
     
  9. Jim

    Jim New Member

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    I have a 2015 and when I showed up to pick up my bike, they mechanic was replacing the solenoid - the sales guy told me he was performing the "recall." So doesn't sound like it's been fixed other than by a recall.
     
  10. Danny J Boy

    Danny J Boy New Member

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    Tip sensor. It resets on its own, but that's what it is, and it shuts the bike off to prevent damage to the engine/rider.
     
  11. Mike310

    Mike310 Member

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    I'm pretty sure it says to rock the key switch back and fourth a couple times after a tip over, this will turn that off. (2014)
     
  12. Thai Guy

    Thai Guy New Member

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    If you have an owners manual, the procedure is clear and simple. The CRF's have a tip over sensor. It shuts off fuel when you get wrong side up. From the manual:

    (1) open the throttle fully and press the start button for 5 seconds

    (2) repeat the normal starting procedure

    (3) if the engine starts, open the throttle slightly if idle is unstable

    (4) if the engine does not start, wait 10 seconds before trying steps (1) and (2)

    Also, from the NOTICE on the same page:

    If the engine does not start within 5 seconds, turn the ignition off and wait 10 seconds before trying to start the engine again to recover battery voltage

    Here is what Honda doesn't say: If you have borderline battery condition...meaning barely putting up 12 volts or even 11, then you cannot fix the tip-over issue. I believe it loses it's brain under 10.8 volts. Whilst cranking with a poor battery, you might be less. Even though you have a "12 volt" battery, your charging system kicks ass...puts up 14.5-ish, with a regulator to keep the reliability in check. A declining battery may show 12...12.4...whatever, but not deliver enough when starting. (Voltage drop to under 10) An easy check...steal your friends new battery and watch how fast it starts. (Or, connect a trickle charger to the battery...then try to start)
     
  13. Schnatterinchen

    Schnatterinchen Member

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    Jay, not sure if bike and rider are still alive. The thread is more than three years old ;)